ABC journalist Claudia Long is up next with a question.
"I guess in an ideal world where we see all of these foundational supports built up, is there anything to stop the situation, for example, where an NDIS participants is referred to the allied health services you've been talking about within a school or a hospital?" she says.
"And then, they find out that's a lengthy waiting list of a number of years.
"How are you going to guarantee — not just you, but the government more widely, how are you going to guarantee the states are going to come through on their promise to guarantee supports?"
Mr Shorten says he's "optimistic the states are engaged".
"We'll work together on it," he says.
"If you say to me, 'please show me everything that in five or 10 years' time and I want it right now', I can't.
"I can guarantee you this is the best plan in town. Do I think there will be wrinkles in it we've got to iron out talking to people with disability, sure.
"Do I think there will be good points made by service providers about too heavy red tape or not, sure.
"But there is zero arrogance about this.
"If we do nothing, then it all eventually falls over.
"So I'm not saying this is the best plan, I'm saying we'll make it better as we go along together with the states and with people with disability most importantly.
"But it is the only viable plan."
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